9 thoughts on “audiojunkies Podcast #12 – Genesis

  1. When it comes to rock, I’m definitely a progressive guy. I think that Yes and Floyd are definitely good topics – though both of them might merit a couple of episodes each (particularly Yes). Crimson might be an interesting topic as well, though they are definitely a less accessible band. I don’t know how many listeners would be attracted to a podcast about them.

    Keep up the great work, and feel free to contact me at my private email if you wish to take any discussion offline.

    All the best,

  2. Very cool. We are on iTunes, twitter and Facebook. Hope you check out some of our other episodes too. We have a marillion one going up in a few weeks and we will be recording yes and pink Floyd ones very soon. Thanks again for feedback. Any episode requests?

  3. I’m from (please excuse this) “Back In NYC”!

    Actually whenever I land @ LGA or JFK, I tweet “I see faces and traces of home…”

  4. You should check out our earballs section. Cam did a bit on FM which is one of our favorite prog bands. What part of the world are you from?

  5. You guys are really performing an important service. As we get further and further away from the “golden era” of progressive rock, there is a real danger that it is being lost to the years. Organizations like “Rolling Stone” and other pop culture journals have been intent on erasing progressive rock from the history of the music. It’s only by the grace of public shaming that the Rock Hall has had to finally admit Rush. Up until now, Genesis was the one and only progressive band to be inducted (largely by dint of their pop work).

    People forget, but the progressive movement was one of the only things keeping rock alive when disco laid waste to the rock landscape in the Seventies. Even if a band is not directly influenced by progressive sensibilities (which is truly hard to believe), they owe a debt of gratitude to the men who kept rock alive and kicking.

  6. Awesome. Thanks so much for listening and taking the time to leave such cool feedback. I agree with all that you wrote. Genesis is such a great band and I feel they deserve such in depth analysis. We plan on recording a Yes podcast very soon and am looking forward to your feedback on that one too.

  7. Yet another great podcast, guys! I’ve been looking forward to your Genesis analysis with great anticipation!

    I have a few notes (as is my wont – as Phil Collins would say :))

    – One of the things about Peter Gabriel’s vocals w/ Genesis v. his vocals on solo work is perhaps that they have quiet a bit less of the R&B style. It was less stylized and more focused towards covering a very wide dynamic range. When I think of that era of Genesis (with regards to vocals), I immediately think of “The Musical Box”, where PG goes from quiet and lyrical to screaming in a thought’s breadth.

    – In my opinion, the two quartet records (Trick, Wind) are really the peak of their musical output. There’s a level of refinement on these two albums that was only able to be achieved when they were untied to Peter Gabriel’s lyrics. Pieces like “Eleventh Earl Of Mar” and “Vine” still have great progressive librettos, but are not unduly influenced by them.

    – There is a lot more to Hackett’s departure than just “Wot Gorilla”. The overarching reason is that with Gabriel’s departure, the balance of power in the band put him at a creative disadvantage. Rutherford and (particularly) Banks showed very little appreciation for Hackett’s abilities as a writer. To add to that, Hackett ended up in the hospital at one point, and his own bandmates didn’t even visit him. I think history shows that it was Hackett that was the victim of passive-aggressive behavior, not the other way around.

    – I don’t believe that Bill Bruford ever thought that he was to become anything more than a temporary replacement for Phil Collins on the drums. I’ve scoured his auto-biography and other sources and can find no indication that he ever intended to do anything more than help his friend Phil. He has, in fact, admitted that he behaved _very_ poorly towards the band. It seems that he volunteered to help Phil for one tour (against Phil’s advice that he’d already “been there, done that”), and having never been a sideman, found himself unable to conduct himself as one, properly. I believe that on “Second’s Out”, we only get to hear him on “Cinema Show”.

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